30Mar/06Off
‘War’ on Christians Is Alleged
The War on Christians. Sigh. 85 percent of Americans identify themselves as Christians. So, the other 15% of us are waging a war against them? And apparently, we’re winning? Yay for us.
“It doesn’t rise to the level of persecution that we would see in China or North Korea. But let’s not pretend that it’s okay.” This sort of shit is so much propaganda, it makes me sick. If your so-called persecution doesn’t rise to the level of what we see in other countries, then why even bring it up? Oh, right, I remember now. Saddam Hussein! 9/11! You are getting sleepy! Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!
I need to go lie down.

March 30th, 2006 - 10:05
Ugh. Slide over and give me the good pillow.
March 30th, 2006 - 10:54
What’s so evil about Barbra Streisand, btw? I haven’t noticed her leading any kind of self-hating Jewish crusade. Am I missing something?
March 30th, 2006 - 11:01
She’s a ….. :: whispers:: ….. LIBERAL.
March 30th, 2006 - 11:43
“You guys have become the Jews of the 21st century,” said Horowitz, a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute in Washington, just before a false alarm interrupted his speech. Several attendees called the fire alarm suspicious, though a hotel spokesman said it resulted from a mechanical problem in a distant location.
Methinks the BIG MAN ain’t happy!!!
March 30th, 2006 - 11:50
Hey Yeti, are you in the film biz?
March 30th, 2006 - 11:58
That they’re trying to appropriate the persecution of Jews is on the list of the most disgusting things I’ve ever seen. They’re already fascists, and now they’re about two inches away from becoming actual fucking Nazis. Anyone else but us freaks noticing this yet? No? Alrighty then.
March 30th, 2006 - 12:00
Scary, isn’t it?
I’m really curious to see if my very-Christian neighbors have an opinion on this. But I don’t want to start a conversation that might make me want to take my own life. I already told you about the Starbucks debacle, right, Jen?
March 30th, 2006 - 12:16
People are daring to put up a token resistance as the Christians run roughshod over our rights and impose their beliefs on the rest of us. The horror!
And I love a good debacle…what’s the scoop?
March 30th, 2006 - 12:17
Oh, and isn’t the sight of FG and Chuck napping together just the cutest fucking thing ever?
March 30th, 2006 - 12:32
Yeah FG, you emailed me about that a while back.
I think the basis of a lot of this stuff comes down to fundamental belief splits. (Not for the powermongers who are orchestrating the whole thing, but for many of their willing little minions, without whom they’d be largely powerless.) Like, a lot of the minion-level folks seem to actually buy the notion that they’ve been hand-picked by an omniscient being to rule over all the other people that the omniscient being also created but decided later were just as much of a bad idea as According To Jim.
Which is simple hubris, mostly, I think, but I’ve learned that it’s dangerous to underestimate the power of people’s pride and presumption.
March 30th, 2006 - 12:41
Michael – I think I might have emailed you too. About how I found out my neighbors were boycotting Starbucks because their church told them Starbucks supports “the homosexual lifestyle.” Gross.
March 30th, 2006 - 12:45
Yeah Chuck – cause of you – wanker!
March 30th, 2006 - 13:36
Oh yeah. Was some of it over those HEINOUS cups with an innocuous quote from Armistead Maupin?
March 30th, 2006 - 13:38
I believe it was, yep.
March 30th, 2006 - 13:40
“…but I’ve learned that it’s dangerous to underestimate the power of people’s pride and presumption.”
It never fails to shock me. Someone who seems reasonable in most matters will be harboring some hateful notions and presume to decide how everyone else gets to live.
March 30th, 2006 - 13:54
What is it about human nature that causes us to act this way? Because I don’t see this just in matters of the church (although they seem to have perfected it). I’ve run across people who think they can sit in judgement of how others live and become quite hateful about it.
March 30th, 2006 - 14:01
Yeti – you a**hole. Nice name.
March 30th, 2006 - 14:11
ha ha!
March 30th, 2006 - 14:15
Enjoying this Deb?
March 30th, 2006 - 14:22
As always.
March 30th, 2006 - 14:22
If she can be a freak then I can be a Yeti!
March 30th, 2006 - 14:28
You ARE a Yeti.
March 30th, 2006 - 14:29
fwiw, after picking it apart in countless different ways, whether it arises from religion, government, another sort of cliquish arrangement, or any combination thereof, I think it’s about power. Power is like a drug. Some people can handle messing with it from time to time, or just using it for fun, but other people promptly become crackheads. Some of those can recover, others can’t.
But I tend toward power analyses so that may just be a personal bias stemming from my own worldview.
March 30th, 2006 - 14:29
It’s true. You are.
March 30th, 2006 - 14:32
Jen, I agree. Power and control. If you can sit in judgement of others – for example, hating fat people for being fat, smokers for smoking, vegetarians for not eating meat, whatever – it ultimately makes you feel like you have power over your own self. “Well, at least I’m not like THAT,” one might think.
And it’s fear of BECOMING “that” that causes that one click in someone’s brain to start feeling superior to others.
March 30th, 2006 - 14:50
I get hairier and hairier everyday!!!
March 30th, 2006 - 15:04
And I eat Christians for breakfast thus diminishing both their “Power” and “Control”
March 30th, 2006 - 15:12
Re: the idea of thinking less of another in order to build yourself up, I think it was Jung who first called that “leveling”, but my psych knowledge is definitely rusty. In philosophical terms (particularly in feminist theories), what you’re describing is also called ‘Othering’.
And yeah, those are good examples of the application of the phenomenon in terms of personal power. Then you add mob mentality to it, and it turns into a whole Us vs. Them thing, and that’s when you get large scale oppression and/or large scale systematized violence against whichever lesser powered group has been scapegoated by the more powerful group.
March 30th, 2006 - 15:14
Heh, how wrong is it that I just had this flash of throwing the whiny Christians to the Yetis in, like, The Orange Bowl? Pretty wrong, I’ll wager. Still funny, though.
March 30th, 2006 - 15:21
Not wrong! Funny!
March 30th, 2006 - 15:29
What’s the score? Yetis 10 Christians 0
March 30th, 2006 - 15:53
Were you eating a frozen samosa when you typed that?
March 30th, 2006 - 16:01
No, I was puking on your couch.