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Rona
January 30th, 2008 - 10:23

Guiliani totally fucked it up, didn’t he?
There was an article in the NY Times last week about how, when he was mayor, you were fucked if you crossed him. A guy went to the Daily News to report a traffic sting that was set up by his house somewhere, and it made front page news, and the next day cops showed up on his doorstep to arrest him on a 13-year-old outstanding traffic ticket.

GeekBoy
January 30th, 2008 - 12:45

I don’t know about that Ali. Bush used it in 2004, when it was all still relatively fresh yet. He also used it as a way to get us into a war in 2003. But if you look both at his approval ratings and public opinion about the war, the tide has clearly turned. Giuliani’s failure to excite Republicans might just be another sign of that.

In this cynical day and age, patriotism has an expiration date.

ali
January 30th, 2008 - 17:01

GB – i agree with you. the tide has turned. that’s why i said – historically speaking, it worked. sort of like – it worked in the past, so i can see why people might try to do it again….

that being said, GB had to use 9/11 b/c he wanted to play in the sandbox. now that we’re stuck there, people want out. i would think a politician would see that and figure out that it was a bad plan. of course, we have a retarded person for president, so i underestimate them all.

(and one more thing – ages ago, you highly recommended that i give firefly a chance. i just finished it – awesome. thx!)

ali
January 30th, 2008 - 17:28

i’m not trying to be offensive. my brother in law is indeed mentally retarded and he finds bush’s “humanity” to be great. my response – who taught you that word?

that being said, when my sister uses the autism card, i am automatically offended as my best friend’s niece has autism and she’s smart as a whip. my b-i-l is not autistic. he’s retarded. and he’s absolutely intolerable and i apologize for any offense. if my b-i-l wasn’t such a suck ass father, i wouldn’t think anything about it. fact is – he’s awful. he’s dumb enough to have an excuse and smart enough to be mean.

that is my back story – in my world, there are two “retarded” people. my b-i-l and gwb. other people might be slow or might not be smart, but i rarely use that word without a direct (if only mental) reference to my b-i-l…or gwb…

long story short – sorry to people who are mentally challenged. it is indeed an insult.

Jill
January 30th, 2008 - 20:47

um…… does anybody realize that Edwards was the only hope the Democratic party had??? I mean, people, I’m seriously….. do you REALLY think a majority of THIS country will vote a black man or, heaven forbid, a WOMAN into the highest office of the land in this decade? Or the next one? Or the next one? Yes, it’s fun to parade them around all the primaries and show off all of their new age standards, but when it really comes down to the actual nomination, who do you think they were REALLY going to vote for? For christ sake, Edwards could go and have an affair with male crack whore and his gay pet sheep, put it on youtube, and he would STILL be electable!! It’s 2008 and WE STILL USE FOSSIL FUEL FOR OUR PRIMARY SOURCE OF ENERGY, and our entire foreign policy is based on that one fact. Is that the kind of mindset that would accept anything other than an outwardly straight white male as a presidential candidate? A WOMAN president? A BLACK president? Yeah, they might stay alive for a few days, but soon all those patriotic gun-toting americans will take the situation into their own gun-toting hands… So much for getting a Democrat into office this time around. Maybe next time…

Shannon
January 31st, 2008 - 02:04

Please, keep faith. I know we have been knocked around election after election, but there has to be someone in our generation who can rally the troops.

Edwards is going to be an ongoing force in this election—I don’t know what he lacked, but his message will go forward, either in a Vice President nomination or just in mention, but he was the voice of reason in the debates, and people listened. Please don’t rule out a Richardson endorsement—he has so much international experience and is very pragmatic in how he deals with conflict (check out his record with North Korea and how he sees ending our “stay” in Iraq.) He just did not have the Superstar Power it takes to make center stage in the Presidential bid, nor did Edwards. Either would make a great VP.

I vote cupcakes too. But I will vote. I will get others to vote, in force, because regardless of history, I hold faith in people.

Jill
January 31st, 2008 - 10:53

He can win an election. And he knows how to play the game.