25 responses for this post

1. Rona on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 at 10:23 am

   Guiliani totally fucked it up, didn’t he?
   There was an article in the NY Times last week about how, when he was mayor, you were fucked if you crossed him. A guy went to the Daily News to report a traffic sting that was set up by his house somewhere, and it made front page news, and the next day cops showed up on his doorstep to arrest him on a 13-year-old outstanding traffic ticket.

2. ali on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 at 10:34 am

   so angelus and principle snyder have stepped down…err…edwards was snyder right? or was he riley. (hate)

3. freakgirl on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 at 10:38 am

   I’m just glad that people figured out that you can’t run for president on a platform that reads only “9/11, 9/11, 9/11.”

4. ali on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 at 10:48 am

   you can’t???
   

5. freakgirl on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 at 10:53 am

   Actually, I retract that. Bush did it last term, didn’t he?

6. ali on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 at 11:16 am

   indeed. and historically speaking, if you use 9/11, you win.

7. GeekBoy on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 at 12:45 pm

   I don’t know about that Ali. Bush used it in 2004, when it was all still relatively fresh yet. He also used it as a way to get us into a war in 2003. But if you look both at his approval ratings and public opinion about the war, the tide has clearly turned. Giuliani’s failure to excite Republicans might just be another sign of that.

   In this cynical day and age, patriotism has an expiration date.

8. Chuck on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 at 1:01 pm

   Oooh, this patriotism smells off. Here, smell it - is it off? Smell it, SMELL IT!

9. freakgirl on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 at 1:24 pm

   Ugh, you’re right. This patriotism has definitely turned. It’s curdled!

10. Hugh on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 at 3:52 pm

    “A little man desperately searching for a balcony. ” - Jimmy Breslin

11. ali on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 at 5:01 pm

    GB - i agree with you. the tide has turned. that’s why i said - historically speaking, it worked. sort of like - it worked in the past, so i can see why people might try to do it again….

    that being said, GB had to use 9/11 b/c he wanted to play in the sandbox. now that we’re stuck there, people want out. i would think a politician would see that and figure out that it was a bad plan. of course, we have a retarded person for president, so i underestimate them all.

    (and one more thing - ages ago, you highly recommended that i give firefly a chance. i just finished it - awesome. thx!)

12. freakgirl on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 at 5:17 pm

    Not to be humorless, but Bush isn’t retarded and it’s not a nice comparison to make.

    Also, my developmentally disabled friends are way smarter than Bush.

13. ali on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 at 5:28 pm

    i’m not trying to be offensive. my brother in law is indeed mentally retarded and he finds bush’s “humanity” to be great. my response - who taught you that word?

    that being said, when my sister uses the autism card, i am automatically offended as my best friend’s niece has autism and she’s smart as a whip. my b-i-l is not autistic. he’s retarded. and he’s absolutely intolerable and i apologize for any offense. if my b-i-l wasn’t such a suck ass father, i wouldn’t think anything about it. fact is - he’s awful. he’s dumb enough to have an excuse and smart enough to be mean.

    that is my back story - in my world, there are two “retarded” people. my b-i-l and gwb. other people might be slow or might not be smart, but i rarely use that word without a direct (if only mental) reference to my b-i-l…or gwb…

    long story short - sorry to people who are mentally challenged. it is indeed an insult.

14. freakgirl on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 at 5:57 pm

    I’m not going to get into a big argument about it, but using the word “retarded” as an insult is uncool in my book. I don’t care why you do it or who your brother-in-law is.

    Let’s just drop it - I don’t want to argue with my readers.

15. Jill on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 at 8:47 pm

    um…… does anybody realize that Edwards was the only hope the Democratic party had??? I mean, people, I’m seriously….. do you REALLY think a majority of THIS country will vote a black man or, heaven forbid, a WOMAN into the highest office of the land in this decade? Or the next one? Or the next one? Yes, it’s fun to parade them around all the primaries and show off all of their new age standards, but when it really comes down to the actual nomination, who do you think they were REALLY going to vote for? For christ sake, Edwards could go and have an affair with male crack whore and his gay pet sheep, put it on youtube, and he would STILL be electable!! It’s 2008 and WE STILL USE FOSSIL FUEL FOR OUR PRIMARY SOURCE OF ENERGY, and our entire foreign policy is based on that one fact. Is that the kind of mindset that would accept anything other than an outwardly straight white male as a presidential candidate? A WOMAN president? A BLACK president? Yeah, they might stay alive for a few days, but soon all those patriotic gun-toting americans will take the situation into their own gun-toting hands… So much for getting a Democrat into office this time around. Maybe next time…

16. ali on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 at 8:57 pm

    fg - my apologies.

17. freakgirl on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 at 9:07 pm

    Jill, please remain calm.

    I get what you’re saying. I know that most of the country seems impossibly backwards. But we can hope. Maybe we’re wrong. I don’t know. I’m just not ready ot throw in the towel yet.

18. Jill on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 at 9:17 pm

    yeah, my head exploded there. I want more than anything to be wrong. But the last 10 years have been screaming at me to wake up (that last two years of Clinton’s presidency spent all my taxpayer money on outing a straight white man who behaved like a straight white man). So here I am, awake. Cynical, and awake. Oh but would I love for everyone I know to say “I TOLD YOU SO!” That would be the best thing ever. That last presidential “election” took all my hope away… So I hope all you hopers out there have enough to cover me.

19. freakgirl on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 at 9:31 pm

    Yeah, my spirit is pretty broken from the last election, too. And it’s scary for me to even try and get excited about this one, because I fear I am going to end up disappointed and turn into one of those apathetic people who don’t vote.

    I don’t want that to happen.

20. Jill on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 at 10:23 pm

    Me neither. I’m still gonna vote. I wonder who I’ll vote for??

21. freakgirl on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 at 10:28 pm

    I VOTE CUPCAKES!

22. Jill on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 at 10:54 pm

    :-D

23. Shannon on Thursday, January 31, 2008 at 2:04 am

    Please, keep faith. I know we have been knocked around election after election, but there has to be someone in our generation who can rally the troops.

    Edwards is going to be an ongoing force in this election—I don’t know what he lacked, but his message will go forward, either in a Vice President nomination or just in mention, but he was the voice of reason in the debates, and people listened. Please don’t rule out a Richardson endorsement—he has so much international experience and is very pragmatic in how he deals with conflict (check out his record with North Korea and how he sees ending our “stay” in Iraq.) He just did not have the Superstar Power it takes to make center stage in the Presidential bid, nor did Edwards. Either would make a great VP.

    I vote cupcakes too. But I will vote. I will get others to vote, in force, because regardless of history, I hold faith in people.

24. Jen on Thursday, January 31, 2008 at 9:51 am

    Why does everyone love Edwards so much? I haven’t been able to figure that out. Yes he talks a good game about the poor and the middle class and he does have a nice face, but he also made a ton of money as a malpractice attorney and then joined a hedge fund. Hedge funds don’t pay income tax, they only pay capital gains tax–a HUGE loophole that is screwing everyone including the poor and middle class.

    I’m 10x more excited about Obama, a man whose previous employment seems to suggest that he is not all about the mighty dollar.

    What was the appeal of Edwards?

25. Jill on Thursday, January 31, 2008 at 10:53 am

    He can win an election. And he knows how to play the game.

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